Comments for The Prepper Journal http://www.theprepperjournal.com Prepping, Survival and Common Sense Sun, 29 Mar 2015 05:20:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.1.1 Comment on How Prepared Are You? by BAhttp://www.theprepperjournal.com/2015/02/25/how-prepared-are-you/comment-page-1/#comment-24032 Sun, 29 Mar 2015 05:20:00 +0000 http://www.theprepperjournal.com/?p=13409#comment-24032 I live in hurricane territory. I have been in serveral storms with the max time without power 5 days until Ike in 2008. The loss of power in 95-98 temps, humidity of 60-85% for 17 days was horrible. I prepare every year for most needs but had a trip planned, tickets in hand, so luckily was out of town for 11 of the days. Had I been home for the entire period, at the end I would have had problems. Normal plan time is for 7-8 days, not the 17 days that our subdivision suffered.
Also in January, even though I have an alarm system, two males kicked in my screen porch door and the steel french doors into the house and ran out with a small amount of cash and some jewelry left on my bathroom counter.
They were in and out in about 4 minutes after realizing they could not disarm the alarm system. (They tried, by yanking out wires and the speaker blaring the alarm all over the area, but alarm still kept going off) I was only a mile from home when the alarm company called me to tell me about the break-in.
With those two events happening, I am going to make a number of changes to this year’s plans which need to be in place by June when hurricane season begins. Security will be high on my list now!
We have been lucky the past few years with no storms but are due for another biggy, possibly this year. I need to stop planning and start implementing them now!

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Comment on Survival Community: Justice in a WROL world? by usmarinestankerhttp://www.theprepperjournal.com/2015/03/26/survival-community-justice-in-a-wrol-world/comment-page-1/#comment-24031 Sun, 29 Mar 2015 05:09:00 +0000 http://www.theprepperjournal.com/?p=13844#comment-24031 Finally, I have some time to respond to this. Good thinking article.

I think I differ in my thoughts on this than many preppers, and most definitely from most of society.

For the past year I have been trying to put my thoughts on laws and governance of humans in an essay/treatise, but I’m having a lot of trouble staying on focus because I get sidetracked with every possibility under the sun; rather than defining and expounding upon the major tenets.

I am a very firm believer in natural law, which comes from God (or from the very fact that you exist as a natural being if you don’t believe in God) and is supreme to any man-made law. My take on what that means is all humans have the right to exist and to do whatever they want, wherever they want, whenever they want so long as they do not physically harm others or the property of others, and so long as they do not deal fraudulently or coercively with others because those things take away the autonomy (informed, self-direction) of others.

The biggest problem with this absolute freedom is human nature. We are selfish, we are dishonest, and we are violent. Person 1 and Person 2 might be able to live and let live and put their differences aside so long as the people remain reasonably physically separated and don’t compete over resources, or they may even get along swimmingly or symbiotically, but once Person 3 enters the picture all bets are off. The philosopher Thomas Hobbes described this as “the natural condition of mankind”, a state of constant warfare with fear as the biggest motivator. His is a dog-eat-dog world whereby every person is out to kill, maim, and conquer so as to attain the largest amount of resources to ensure survival. All competition (other living humans) is a lethal threat because all competition is after the same thing and view you as a lethal threat simply because you exist. In Hobbes’ world, we would kill each other to the last man.

Hobbes postulated that the way mankind rises above his animal nature is to elect a “sovereign” who unites the people and provides strategy, logistics, and concentrated power and safety in exchange for permanently surrendering your liberty and right to choose/dissent “for the greater good.” This sovereign is judge, jury, and executioner by the whim of his will alone and he is capable of no wrongdoing because everyone surrendered their freedom to him to make these sorts of difficult choices.

This might sound all well and good for those who freely entered into this agreement, but what if they wanted to change their mind? Changing one’s mind is treason against the sovereign and against the society to which one has become an immovable and vital cog in the machinery of daily life. To wish for a different life is to wish death upon all; to act towards freedom is to act towards the death of all and must be punished by death itself as the ultimate crime against society. This eternal slavery is known as the “social contract” and is extended to all born after the initial election of the sovereign because those born were only able to have been conceived due to the safety and security provided by the society which the benevolent sovereign has created. They are born indebted through no fault of their own. I vehemently reject the social contract with every fiber of my being.

Our founding fathers fought a Revolution against such abuses and tyrrany; fought for the right of self-governance and limited government power. Today, our own nation operates in much the same way as those against whom we fought. We may technically have the right to vote and change things, but the criminality within the system is so entrenched as to be permanent except through extraordinary means. Only the names and faces change, not the game. We also technically have the right to go so far as to surrender our citizenship and move to another country, but those are run essentially the same – by an oligarchy demanding your obedience. Gone are the days when one could simply pack up and move into the wilderness and say “this, and all that I see are mine” and it would be so.

Back to my original statement about natural law, when humans live in close proximity to one another they usually choose to give up certain freedoms for “the greater good” so as to attain an artificial peace whereby they are willing to be punished for violating arbitrary societal norms. All man-made laws are an imposition of morality. We may agree with the reason and the surrendering of liberty because we believe the end is justified, but what about those who disagree with the moral majority? Take speed limits as an example. In a school zone, I would say 99% of us agree that going 50 mph is a bad idea because we value our children and understand their limitations and poor decision making skills. We don’t want them killed under a car so we agree to limit our speed for their safety. A moral decision and a generally large consensus. But isn’t 25 mph arbitrary? Isn’t the fine of the ticket ultimately arbitrary? What if I agree with not speeding, but not with the punishment if I do?

Now take those same speed limit laws on a busy thoroughfare. Perhaps the speed limit in your town is 35-45 mph but you know you’re capable of going 55 mph safely so you disregard the laws and do your own thing. According to the moral majority, you’re a criminal. I disagree. I believe you are a sovereign human acting as you see fit because it is your right to do so so long as you don’t harm people or their property and don’t deal fraudulently or coercively. Just because you “could” kill someone or wreck their car by going fast, in my mind, doesn’t justify limiting your rights and freedoms as a precautionary measure. You may voluntarily choose to limit your freedoms, but for others to force you to goes against natural law. It might piss others off, but you haven’t harmed them. I am not going to force my will upon others out of fear of the boogie man Hobbes argues we would all fall to without arbitrary laws and punishments.

If you want to paint your house blue, go ahead. If you want to listen to your music blaring at 0430, go ahead. If you want to leave a car on blocks on your front lawn go ahead. These things may bother me, but they do not harm me. I have no right to demand you live the way I want you to live, just the same as you have no right to demand that I live the way you want me to live. Yes, I’m targeting nuisance laws here. It would be convenient if we got along, but neither of us has the right to force our will upon another as sovereign human beings. For one to force his ideas upon another is to reject his ability as an adult to self-determination. It is the epitome of arrogance and disregard for the rights of our fellow human beings. But modern society and laws do just this on a daily basis – they fine, beat, imprison, and kill those who don’t comply.

The natural solution is to live distantly from other humans. If you can’t hear or see what I’m doing then you can’t be bothered by it, can you? This does not allow for strong government or grand civilization to be built – both of which I am ok with. I wouldn’t mind living distantly from others and hope to do so on a homestead, but I know that life isn’t for everyone – even throughout history people have flocked to the safety and convenience of cities. Cities will not go away, nor will the problems which arise from people with conflicting world views living in close proximity to one another.

So how do we deal with those petty crimes against person and property (notice, I didn’t say nuisances or things which annoy us)? According to natural law we can’t deal fraudulently or coercively with others, but we do have a right to protect ourselves. In these situations where a person has harmed another or his property or dealt fraudulently or coercively with another, I believe (imposition of morality here) that a society has the right to banish those who commit such crimes, or to execute if the crime involves variations of murder, intentional serious bodily injury, or rape. etc.

In lieu of banishment or execution a society may freely choose to allow for a criminal to voluntarily surrender himself for imprisonment or fine, but to forcibly hold (jail) him prisoner except to dispense justice is a form of kidnapping and slavery. And if said criminal doesn’t voluntarily submit to laws and punishments, the only naturally lawful route a group of people has to rely on (in my opinion) is to run them out of town and not let them back (or execution for the serious crimes) as a form of self-preservation.

This form of minimal law (near-anarchy) probably isn’t ever going to be an effective reality (at least on a scale larger than a village), but I believe it to be the most respectful of the individual. Man has many rights which are trodden upon by government, and the only thing keeping the jackboot on everyman’s throat is threat of force via police and military. I am not against those institutions because I know the nature of the world is evil and there are many who will take advantage of and attack, enslave, and destroy those weaker than themselves, but when evil men make laws and foster a culture of disregard for liberty which empower those institutions to infringe upon the rights of free people, I believe it is time to wipe away those men, those institutions, those laws, and that culture to start anew.

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

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Comment on 10 Food Ideas for Your Bug Out Bag by hellcathttp://www.theprepperjournal.com/2014/04/30/10-food-ideas-for-your-bug-out-bag/comment-page-1/#comment-24030 Sun, 29 Mar 2015 02:21:00 +0000 http://www.theprepperjournal.com/?p=9118#comment-24030 a ziplock sandwich bag of beef and chicken bouillon cubes,envelopes of instant soup,sardines and oysters,a baggie of hard candy and gum,envelopes or baggies of dried fruit,small baby food jars filled with salt and pepper,jerky,granola,and as your going out the door grab the brown bag lunch from the frig, contains:2 apples,2 yogurt, a baggie of carrot sticks, a baggie of celery sticks, a baggie of 6 already peeled hard boiled eggs

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Comment on How to Start Prepping by Survival Community: Justice in a WROL world? | Home Preppershttp://www.theprepperjournal.com/2014/08/12/how-to-start-prepping/comment-page-1/#comment-24027 Sat, 28 Mar 2015 00:07:46 +0000 http://www.theprepperjournal.com/?p=10799#comment-24027 […] we prepare for disasters and unplanned events of all shapes and sizes. I like to believe that the actions I take to be more prepared can be used for millions of different scenarios and enhance the lives of my family even if there […]

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Comment on Why You Should Want To Live Through TEOTWAWKI by Survival Community: Justice in a WROL world? | Home Preppershttp://www.theprepperjournal.com/2014/09/17/want-live-teotwawki/comment-page-1/#comment-24026 Sat, 28 Mar 2015 00:07:31 +0000 http://www.theprepperjournal.com/?p=11306#comment-24026 […] wreckage of civilization; I think about the worst our society can become so I am hopefully able to plan in some way for contingencies like this. I figure if I plan for the absolute worst case scenario I will have at least spent some […]

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Comment on How to Butcher Rabbits Humanely by Pat Henryhttp://www.theprepperjournal.com/2014/01/29/butcher-rabbits-humanely/comment-page-1/#comment-24025 Fri, 27 Mar 2015 20:21:00 +0000 http://www.theprepperjournal.com/?p=6393#comment-24025 Yes, the butchering part is much easier in my opinion than breaking the rabbits neck. That right there is not for the squeamish.

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Comment on How to Butcher Rabbits Humanely by Jaredhttp://www.theprepperjournal.com/2014/01/29/butcher-rabbits-humanely/comment-page-1/#comment-24021 Fri, 27 Mar 2015 17:32:00 +0000 http://www.theprepperjournal.com/?p=6393#comment-24021 Thanks for sharing this. I’d like to raise chickens and rabbits in the future, but the butchering is going to take some getting used to, seeing as I’ve not done any hunting (other than varmint control) or anything like that. It doesn’t help when rabbits have to look so damn cute.

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Comment on Self-Storage Survival: Cache Option for Preppers? by EgbertThrockmorton1http://www.theprepperjournal.com/2015/03/21/self-storage-survival-cache-option-for-preppers/comment-page-1/#comment-24020 Fri, 27 Mar 2015 15:07:00 +0000 http://www.theprepperjournal.com/?p=13795#comment-24020 Public lockers, such as in various transportation hubs, are ALWAYS checked at the end of a 24 hour period for explosives, drugs and other “contraband” since 09-11-2001. Always. Said lockers in the US are ONLY good for a 24 hour period or LESS.

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Comment on Survival Community: Justice in a WROL world? by madelynhttp://www.theprepperjournal.com/2015/03/26/survival-community-justice-in-a-wrol-world/comment-page-1/#comment-24019 Fri, 27 Mar 2015 14:46:00 +0000 http://www.theprepperjournal.com/?p=13844#comment-24019 As in the fiction book, “One Second After”, describing what life would be like in TEOTWAWKI, there came a time necessary in their community for some type of justice system. There were thieves, murderers and groups of sick, roving marauders to deal with. Evil must be dealt with. Even now truth is being compromised in our nation. “No one calls for justice, nor does anyone plead for truth. They trust in empty words and speak lies. They conceive evil and bring forth inequity. Justice is turned back. Righteousness stands afar off. Truth is fallen in the streets and equity cannot enter. The truth fails and he who departs from evil makes himself a prey.” In other words you put a target on your back if you don’t go along with the political correctness or what the bible calls evil. Imho using God’s Word and biblical rules as a plumb line for truth, righteousness and justice would be a most excellent way for survivors of TEOTWAWKI. Neighborhood meetings, discussions of such before hand would be most advantageous. The question is…..will we do it?

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Comment on Survival Community: Justice in a WROL world? by Elizabethhttp://www.theprepperjournal.com/2015/03/26/survival-community-justice-in-a-wrol-world/comment-page-1/#comment-24018 Fri, 27 Mar 2015 03:23:00 +0000 http://www.theprepperjournal.com/?p=13844#comment-24018 oh wow. Way to take it to the next level Pat. Very much like the things our founding fathers (and dare I say it – mothers!!) had to consider.

You might enjoy thinking about the Rules of Saint Benedict. Incredibly simple and workable for people of many backgrounds.

If any one of us has been paying any kind of attention, we’ve watched so many potentially positive global movements devolve into deeply disturbing forms of rule of law. (there are a couple places on the planet right now that are giving me the serious heebie jeebies.) Is it alchemy to get the right thinkers together to come up with systems that mostly work?

It’s worth considering: Is the intellectual work that it took to write the Constitution be something we as individuals be prepared to undertake if necessity forced us to do so? Even if it were for a relatively small community?

What would any of us change?

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Comment on Prepping for Beginners: Where to Start Prepping by Pat Henryhttp://www.theprepperjournal.com/2015/03/24/prepping-for-beginners-where-to-start-prepping/comment-page-1/#comment-24017 Fri, 27 Mar 2015 00:12:00 +0000 http://www.theprepperjournal.com/?p=13816#comment-24017 The only problem is you can’t really test for EMP unless I have totally missed something out there.

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Comment on How Much Should A Bug Out Bag Cost? by Pat Henryhttp://www.theprepperjournal.com/2015/03/18/how-much-should-a-bug-out-bag-cost/comment-page-1/#comment-24016 Fri, 27 Mar 2015 00:11:00 +0000 http://www.theprepperjournal.com/?p=13768#comment-24016 The Sawyer looks really nice, but I am waiting for the price drop on that. I can’t believe it won’t eventually come down.

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Comment on How Much Should A Bug Out Bag Cost? by Pat Henryhttp://www.theprepperjournal.com/2015/03/18/how-much-should-a-bug-out-bag-cost/comment-page-1/#comment-24015 Fri, 27 Mar 2015 00:10:00 +0000 http://www.theprepperjournal.com/?p=13768#comment-24015 You are right about the calorie count on some. The weight and utility still makes me chose them, but I know what you mean. You could augment with GORP too. Better calories and still lighter. Just an idea.

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Comment on Prepping for Beginners: Where to Start Prepping by LWJhttp://www.theprepperjournal.com/2015/03/24/prepping-for-beginners-where-to-start-prepping/comment-page-1/#comment-24003 Thu, 26 Mar 2015 14:25:00 +0000 http://www.theprepperjournal.com/?p=13816#comment-24003 My area of the world is home to 150 Minuteman III’s. We would be glowing in the event of a real exchange. I don’t worry about a rogue nation trying to pop one off and fry everything with an EMP.

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Comment on Prepping for Beginners: Where to Start Prepping by Elizabethhttp://www.theprepperjournal.com/2015/03/24/prepping-for-beginners-where-to-start-prepping/comment-page-1/#comment-23998 Thu, 26 Mar 2015 05:01:00 +0000 http://www.theprepperjournal.com/?p=13816#comment-23998 I’m not positive about this so maybe I should field test with a Faraday bag and a few things I’m willing to break, but I’d think an electrical pulse would easily jump to anything that was in contact with the material…thus making a circuit and frying the daylights out of an otherwise useful device. EMP wouldn’t have to be a nuke event, it could be solar too. And here’s hoping you don’t plan for it because you live someplace so incredibly awesome, not in a potential ground zero!

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Comment on Self-Storage Survival: Cache Option for Preppers? by BobWhttp://www.theprepperjournal.com/2015/03/21/self-storage-survival-cache-option-for-preppers/comment-page-1/#comment-23997 Thu, 26 Mar 2015 04:33:00 +0000 http://www.theprepperjournal.com/?p=13795#comment-23997 As someone who advocates the prepping in depth philosophy, I can see some limited windows of opportunity for a storage shed.

I’d have to evaluate one’s usefulness based on some criterion. Here’s what I’m thinking:

1. If the Shiz has really hit the fan, do I really want to go on a safari to recover my prepping mats?
2. What are the security features of the facility? Will I be risking my life to get in/out?
3. How would I gain access in a grid down situation? Studying the layout might look suspicious.

For me, in a bug-in scenario, I don’t see the value. I’d rather dig a hole than trust I can gain access to a place designed to keep people out.

Now, if as Pat mentioned, I had a long commute, was an OTR trucker or some such, having a cache along the route would make a lot of sense. Burying a cache in the middle of nowhere seems a loser, but so may be finding an easy to break into yet secure enough to lock down my possessions storage facility.

What about a locker at the local gym or bus/train station? Throwing a back-up bob in one might be viable. Don’t really know how often they force open idle lockers…

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Comment on How Much Should A Bug Out Bag Cost? by BobWhttp://www.theprepperjournal.com/2015/03/18/how-much-should-a-bug-out-bag-cost/comment-page-1/#comment-23996 Thu, 26 Mar 2015 04:16:00 +0000 http://www.theprepperjournal.com/?p=13768#comment-23996 Sorry Pat, been busy the past few days. As to the gravity works system under $100…

1. Buying the piece parts at amazon was well under $100, but lacked the sexy bag for the hoses.
2. Buying the 2L system without the ‘clean’ bag hits the $100 threshold. I personally think buying the repair parts for the 4L system without the clean bag is a better value. Since we are a H2O bladder system family, this works well, and reduced cost.

We actually have one complete 4L system, and all the repair parts but the clean bladder as our second system that I’ve sealed up in small sealable bags. This way the back-up is factory fresh if we need parts, or a 2nd system in use.

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Comment on How Much Should A Bug Out Bag Cost? by BobWhttp://www.theprepperjournal.com/2015/03/18/how-much-should-a-bug-out-bag-cost/comment-page-1/#comment-23995 Thu, 26 Mar 2015 04:10:00 +0000 http://www.theprepperjournal.com/?p=13768#comment-23995 That is a part of our food plan, Pat. The problem I have is the lack of calories and fat. If we are really ‘cold and alone’ in the hinterlands, we’re going to need all the fat at calories we can find, and label shopping indicates low calorie counts on most dehydrated products. Its just a theory at this point that I’m still working through.

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Comment on How Much Should A Bug Out Bag Cost? by BobWhttp://www.theprepperjournal.com/2015/03/18/how-much-should-a-bug-out-bag-cost/comment-page-1/#comment-23994 Thu, 26 Mar 2015 04:07:00 +0000 http://www.theprepperjournal.com/?p=13768#comment-23994 Consider upgrading the 2oz flask of liquid bleach to the powdered version for pools. I’m no expert on proper application of the powder, but I do know that liquid bleach is degraded over time, and 2 fl oz of powder bleach will go much further than the liquid.

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Comment on Prepping for Beginners: Where to Start Prepping by Thomas Paine in the butthttp://www.theprepperjournal.com/2015/03/24/prepping-for-beginners-where-to-start-prepping/comment-page-1/#comment-23993 Thu, 26 Mar 2015 03:19:00 +0000 http://www.theprepperjournal.com/?p=13816#comment-23993 I started prepping because I hated shopping. It just made sense to get a few weeks worth of food instead of dealing with wally world every week. Firearmaggedon made me start stocking ammo and reevaluate what guns I have. A 24yr old truck made start carrying a get home bag.

I’m still figuring it all out but feel better that even if nothing major happens my kids will be able get through minor hiccups OK.

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