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WROL Risks for Women: Are you Prepared?

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Editor’s Note: The following guest article has been generously contributed by Elizabeth. In this insightful post, Elizabeth discusses situations a woman who is living through a WROL (Without Rule of Law) scenario could be faced with.


 

Still small voice.

It doesn’t take much imagination to conjure a world without rule of law:

My youngest is being held hostage by a crazed band of self-proclaimed ‘Freedom Fighters for the Defense of God.’ Even though I’m hungry, dirty and have a screaming migraine from being dehydrated, the ironies are not lost on me. But it doesn’t matter; right here, right now, it’s been decided they don’t have enough wives so my daughter and I are on their waiting list – if we don’t comply, they will kill my boy just like they killed my oldest. They kill the grown men first.

I’m told if I behave well and live up to their expectations, that they might bring my little boy back to me. But that’s only if someone wants me as a wife. If it takes too long to be chosen, he and I will quickly become too many mouths to feed. Or, could be that they’ll make him become a child soldier next year when he turns seven and is considered old enough to be coerced into fighting for their ostensible cause. His growing brain will be both molded and stunted by that experience and, unless he finds something extraordinary within himself, it’s unlikely that he’ll ever be able to function in a society based on civil law. He would be someone forever changed into someone I did not know.

 

Far fetched? Not especially, this happens all around the world right now. Chance of escape as a group in a situation like that?

Slim.

What to do?

Survive. Suffer. Try. What other choice would there be?

If one were in some sort of war situation, running off into chaos would have to be a decision made after patiently waiting for a window of opportunity, not a flight or fight visceral thing because the chances that one would be caught and killed would be incredibly high. To me, dying for one’s ethics is an absolutely acceptable choice but only if there were a strong enough likelihood it would make a significant, tangible difference. Simply up and dying because I didn’t approve of one thing or another would be pointless. So yes, in that situation, I would behave beautifully, put my angel face on, and comply.

It would be immaterial if I liked it or not.

But here’s the thing. Here’s something I know. There is only one thing I actually own. There is only one thing that no one can take away or violate or steal.

That is the contents of my head. No one can take that and I can choose to fill it with things that help me instead of harm me. No sense agonizing over the necessary. In a situation like that, it would be crucial to behave exactly as I had to in order to live, but it would be equally important to cling to that still, small voice most of us can still remember to hear. Staying sane would have to be a top priority.

 

Captive

It doesn’t take much imagination to conjure a world without rule of law:

Somehow I’ve found myself traveling with a guy who has decided he’s in love with me. I don’t share his feelings. It started out as a simple collaboration; we bring complimentary skills in our TEOTWAWKI survival journey and work really well with one another. I don’t want to be cruel as he’s got many wonderful qualities, so I try to let him down easy. We are in a survival situation, we depend on each other. His behavior becomes erratic – swinging from being obsequious at one moment to aggressive in another. One night, he finds some alcohol and tells me, “If I can’t have you, no one can.” It’s not like I’m headed out on dates or as if I’m inundated with suitors; I stink to high heaven – I was thrilled I killed a squirrel – finding a partner is the last thing on my mind. I’ll need to resolve this quickly or I and my family will face the consequences.

Far fetched? Not really. Look up how many restraining orders are logged for your area in any given period of time. It’s probable that there will be far more than you would have thought.

What to do?

Take action. But plan it out. If one were in a group, it’s more likely it could be worked out. If one were not in a group, the response would have to be definitive, effective and permanent. A good friend of mine who is especially gifted as saying beautifully outrageous but equally germane things commented years ago in a world WITH law context, “They gotta sleep sometime – you need to be awake. Go get your baseball bat. Go for the knees.”

In a world where there were no police to be called, no backup plan and no justice, one would have to decide if the threat was real and persistent enough to take even harsher measures.

I think it’s a good idea to think now that decisions have to be situational. That there is no manual that would help anyone actually plan for every contingency. I also know that, regardless of how one defines the difference between ethics and morals, that it’s important to get to know each of our own still, small voice.

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  • Prepp or Die

    Unfortunately even if you are part of a very strong group, the chances of a woman keeping herself will be small. It is the nature of men without law to take what they want. Kingdoms have gone to war over a single woman… More than once… The physical drive to have a woman will never change. Only the willingness of the men who protect her to give up their lives to do so will keep her safe.
    I personally will not abide rape. I consider rape to be a death offence. If I were in a WROL situation, I would be judge jury and executioner. We all would be, based upon our moral standing. These choices and questions are why I am not looking forward to WROL. Yes, I would love to live in a Obama free, government free world where men were allowed to live as they choose! But with that freedom would come hardships, this is one of those hardships.
    My advise? Surround yourself with men who believe in preparedness and honor women now. Good men? Never thought of that as a prep until now. I mean sure men and women who are well trained in survival, medical and combat, but for their skills alone. I guess their chivalry never entered my mind? One more prep to add to the list!? LOL! Thanks Elizabeth, good thoughts!

    • Elizabeth

      thanks, and good thoughts back ‘atcha! I know many fundamentally good men who are motivated by strong, well considered virtues – and my goal is to raise more good strong men to contribute to that – I do so love raising boys (they rock) – and so far so good. I thank my lucky stars that I live in a culture that values me as a fellow human, not as a soulless thing to be taken like property or devalued like a slave. I’m also glad to live in a culture that’s quickly learning not to tell its girls, “don’t be too smart.”

      Thanks for the advice, especially on a dark subject!

    • LWJ

      So how do you determine if a crime were actually committed? Many a female has played the victim card to avoid the consequences of their actions as well. Killing somebody without concrete proof is a great way to start a blood fued.

      • Elizabeth

        No doubt! I would hope that people would use some judgement with that sort of thing.

        And yes – one cannot assume that because someone is female that they’re sweet, snuggly and utterly helpless. Especially if there seems to be a default to helplessness or alluring victim-hood – that’s a game – just ask my son who dated a girl like that and learned a very hard lesson in heartbreak. My grown girl and I couldn’t say anything much other than, “shields up!” with that one.

      • Prepp or Die

        Simple. Two or more witnesses. Or witnessing it myself. WROL remember? The whole world will already be involved in a blood feud. Justice is not blind, and who said anything about killing openly? Justice can be delivered from 1200yds away if conditions are right. What I was talking about would not be a courtroom procedure. If I happened upon a group of men taking advantage of a woman, I will not be calling the local constable to arrest them and take them to the judge. I’ll be calling upon the Springfield Armory express elevator to hell.
        There will be a few years until any form of legal system would even be spoken of. For years afterward, murderers and rapists would be handled as needed and as opportunity arose. Would I hunt one down? Probably not. Would I let one walk away? Definitely not.

        • LWJ

          Would you be willing to engage in a firefight if your family were with you and you saw this event? Would you place them in the line of fire to uphold your moral code? Just remember things are not always as they seem, and going Lone Wolf could also result in a lot of blow back on you and your loved ones. What if you manage to piss off Lenny the Pimp by shooting some of his customers who were involved in some dubious acts but were sanctioned by the community?

          I also have a son and a nephew, what would I do if you told me they raped your daughter and you were going to seek justice and put their head on a pike!? When as far as I am concerned she can be the town bicycle that gives everbody a ride? WROL means that in order to protect me and mine I might have to take out all of you and yours. It is a double edged sword and if your not 100 percent right the consequences could be damn dire indeed.

          • BobW

            As you stated, it will not matter if they raped the girl or not. You are not letting someone execute your little rapists. You’d rather be the Raper family than the father of a dead child. Ugly, but true.

            Lets just hope it never comes to situations like this.

            • LWJ

              The point is that the parents of the town ho, do not get to decide justice based on the word of one person.

          • Prepp or Die

            I agree with BobW, the family would not turn over the rapists to have justice served anyway. No point to even broach the subject with the family. Just have to take care of business. As far as repercussions, unless they told you that they had raped a girl you would never know who ended their miserable existence in the first place. If they had told you that they raped a girl and you did nothing? Well chances are justice would be right around the corner for you too. As for my moral code? As I see it the consequences of letting a known rapist live would be worse than any repercussions from taking the rapist out. If your son or nephew were a rapist, I would be doing your family a service by thinning out the bad seed. I stand upon principle, and if upon principle I fall? I do not fear the man who can take my life, but rather I fear the One who after He has taken my life can then cast my soul into hell. I will have to answer to God in the end, and so will you. Whether I or my family lives or dies in a fire or in a firefight is not within my power to control. I am dead already. The when or how? No concern of mine.

            • LWJ

              Your also the reason why I will try to avoid the far religious right. Were your daughter a ho would I be doing the world a favor by removing her from the gene pool as well? I guess that’s why we will stick to our respective corners of the world. You have the ability to control quite a bit, your starting to sound like a Haji with the God wills it speech.

              • Standup

                I have to agree with BobW. so what if she is a ho? It’s ok to rape a ho? teach your son and nephew now so No One has To later.
                God is not far right, your just a little farther to the left that’s all.

              • LWJ

                The point is that I would not take the word of a doe eyed female and let her parents dispense justice based on the word of said female. If I do recall a few months ago a young female had an article published by the Rolling Stone with one hell of a sob story. Turns out she was also lying through her teeth, however the damage to those young men’s lives was immense. So yes I would defend my family against a Bible thumper, as I am not into living under a community based on the Bible alone.

              • Prepp or Die

                Thanks for making my point Bro! If men of principle take a stand against evil men, then eventually evil men will avoid the men of principle. Avoid them or die. Either way my corner of the world will be the safer corner. Unless you are a rapist…

              • LWJ

                Or your going to be overrun and toast. But it matters not in the end, because the Lone Wolf does not last long. I can also see you being on the receiving end of a Vendetta ride. Now stay on your side of the line McCoy.

  • Mike Lashewitz

    I certainly would not want to be her and have her dreams. Shit happens. Buy a weapon and get TRAINED. Take each moment as it comes and deal with it. Running scenarios in your head makes little to no difference, Live in the NOW.
    One cannot prepare for all contingencies. OK so you are stocked up and ready. Then Yellowstone decides to explode. Do you have time? A place far enough away to go? What about the 5 to 50 million others who have to leave NOW as well? Do you have 20 air filters for your car? You will need them. Oh shit! Yellow stone blew and a massive tsunami hit the East Coast. One can set off the other. What then. Will a canoe on the roof of a car with 20 air filters and a tank of gas be enough? What about all those provisions you packed? You will be burning a lot of gas and that is perhaps the last tank of gas you will find in 600 miles. But wait! Did you pack provisions because you were in such a hurry?
    See how this goes . . .On and on . . . We cannot prepare for everything. At least if you have that gun you can take the easy way out . . . .

    • Sideliner1950

      Wow…

  • anonymous

    I certainly favor women arming themselves even under normal circumstances, but there are two key issues to keep in mind.

    1. Biology has made women prey, and there’s nothing that can be done to change that. Women are smaller, weaker, slower, and less aggressive than men. Prey animals survive only by making themselves invisible to predators. If it comes down to a fight, the woman loses, so her primary goal should be to avoid getting into that situation. She needs to do everything possible to avoid trouble, with the intention to fight only as an absolutely last resort.

    2. Being armed tends to give everyone, men and women, an exaggerated confidence in their ability to defend themselves. That leads, even subconsciously, into violating #1.

    • Elizabeth

      I have to agree – not getting into one of those situations in the first place by becoming as invisible as possible would be my first choice.

  • NRP

    @Elizabeth and others that have active brain cells and not making stupid comments.

    In a WROL or SHTF, I would believe that the current “respect”
    that “most” men have towards Ladies or other men would, unfortunately, break
    down very very quickly. I tell Ladies, and totally believe that “most” men deep
    inside are violent, aggressive, and deeply embedded animals. If there is no
    control protecting other people (men or women) of this world, then why would
    anyone think that men would abide by any sort of “honor/respect/morals” towards
    other men, all alone women whom they “may” look as just something to own? Now
    toss in the fact that everyone is just trying to survive, along with no food,
    no electricity, no water, no communication, no law, no nothing, just animal
    instinct to survive. Does anyone out there think that if a Lady has food/water
    that some men would not kill her and take what she has or her? The same with a
    woman would kill anyone in their path just for that last bit of food, if not
    for herself than for her child/husband/clan. It truly would become a very dangerous
    place, for anyone/everyone, all along the Ladies whom may be out there by
    themselves.

    FYI, if you think it would not happen, look at what ISIS is
    doing right now, the 150 “school girls” captured, the thousands of Christians
    (among others) that are being killed or enslaved. Look at the past history of
    the world even in this day and age. Heck, just take a look at the numbers of
    rapes and murders that happen in the good old USofA each day, each week, and so
    on. Does anyone think that would not escalate if there were no provisions to
    stop it (law)?

    @ Elizabeth directly, you said “I know many fundamentally
    good men who are motivated by strong, well considered virtues”. That is a good
    place to be, but like I said, be careful when the WROL, who can you really
    trust with your life and your sons lives? Whom can you depend on to give you
    and your sons their last bit of food/water without wanting something in return?
    I truly hope you’re correct with your hopes of “a few good men”. I would hope
    that I would be one of those people who would indeed lie down my life for
    someone else. I pray we never need to find out.

    We all need to prepare, we need to think about what we
    really could do, and what we “think” we would do. Preparing is not only about
    collecting “stuff” and learning 8 ways to build a fire, but preparing to face
    all of the millions of “If” this or “If” that”, BUT preparing also to the fact “are
    you willing to die for someone else” so they may have a chance to remember you,
    the one that was willing to die so you may live?

    NRP

    • Elizabeth

      Yup. I think there would be plenty of people who would lose the thin veneer of civilization. You’re right, there would be few people one could trust implicitly – male or female.

    • BobW

      Exactly right. This is why I don’t bother looking for survival groups. In the end, the only people you can trust are already in the house.

      Train them to shoot straight.

  • Marie

    I’ve given this topic a lot of thought, and I keep coming back to the same conclusion. Women will need to be more sensitive to the nuances in any given situation and able to exploit them if they want to keep any semblance of control over their own lives and bodies.

    Even those of us in committed, loving relationships will not be immune, as in any group situation a hierarchy will develop and those in the alpha’s favor will receive benefits/freedoms the others don’t.

    For me, it comes down to three things: 1. Have something of value to offer other than your body. Something hard to find that can’t physically be taken from you, and something more valuable than cooking, cleaning and other tasks which could be done by almost anyone; 2. Dust off your mind-game skills. If you must endure a less than desirable situation, learn how to manipulate it to your favor. If one man is a danger to you, gain the interest/favor of another man who has more power. We’re naturals at this because we’ve been doing it for millennia ladies, and; 3. Learn to disable/kill quietly. Men are bigger and stronger. Guns make noise and will bring other men. Trying a knife or club may get you overpowered and killed. Learn how to drug, sedate or poison. There’s a reason it’s been the preferred method of killing for women for centuries.

    • Great advice Marie! I will be sure to try and keep on every womans good side if I am ever in this situation. Devious….

      • Marie

        A devious woman who appears to be helpless has been the ruin of many a good man, Pat, and not just in SHTF or WROL. Probably best to keep on every woman’s good side regardless of the situation… 😛

        • Elizabeth

          So true!

          • NRP

            Nothing more dangerous or lethal that a woman scorned.

            • Elizabeth

              Yeah. Women have survival techniques built in by cradle conditioning. But alternately, one can also exercise compassion. One can cauterize one’s heart when told, “I can’t handle it.”

              We can reply, “I’m sorry to hear it but I CAN. (handle it) It’s o.k. Be on your way, I got it covered financially, emotionally and spiritually. All the best to you. Don’t come back.”

              And then intentionally let it go and make a garden out of life. Of course it goes without saying (so I’m saying it) it only works in a world where that is possible.

      • EgbertThrockmorton1

        I probably warped my (now adult) daughters for life with these rules to remember:
        nothing good ever happens after midnight
        Yes, that IS all boys think about
        Always, always have at hand and be ready to deploy your “best friends”(that being, Mssrs. S&W, Mr. Glock, Mssrs. Kahr, Beretta, Browning, Colt, Charter Arms, Springfield and his side kick Armory, ) what ever it takes. Make sure YOUR version of events IS the only version told when attacked.
        I believe that females can indeed be nurturing AND Killer Mommies at the same time, and SHOULD BE.
        Marie has some excellent points. While I personally am not a fan of knife fights,(been to a few of those while in law enforcement and still have those scars)
        There is NO such thing as a fair fight. Play for keeps, always.
        Yeah, I’m an unashamed Dad and Grandpa, and trained our children and daughter-in-law and provided them gear from the safe, to ensure their ultimate survival. Mess with my girls, you pay the ultimate price. If they don’t finish the job, I will. Sexist? Non-empathetic? Tough noogies for the bad guys, I no longer care or give a crap what they think. Thugs and thugettes need to fear US for a change. We need to strike fear into their hearts. Make them fear who they choose for “victims”.
        Stepping off the soap box, sorry for preaching to the choir, Elizabeth, great article, and Marie well done. Keep kicking butt and never feel guilty for it. We need strong women who strike fear into predators.

  • NRP

    Like most of the topics here we seem to go to the right and left of the conversation.
    Here is my last two cents worth.
    In a WROL there are going to be a lot of different scenarios. Most have been covered already. My question is what would you do for yourself and your family? We covered all the Rape, enslavement, kill the rapist, save your own clan at all cost, and so on, Lets face it “if”, and that’s a big “IF”, a woman finds herself alone with or even without a child tagging along, what would she do? Hell, what would a man do? So, let me ask those mucho guys out there; have you all not said for a fact, that if someone cannot or will not bring something of value, food, water, a skill, labor, you would NOT let them stay in your “clan”, correct? Now lets say that there are 30 men in your clan, and 3 women, would you not believe that having a few more women would be an asset? would some in your mucho men in the clan not want you (as the leader) to consider letting a Lady stay if for nothing else than for her “services”? And to the Ladies out there, would you not stay so you can have food, water, protection for you and your child? How far would you really go to be alive and to save your children? Would you voluntarily stay and become part of that “clan”?
    This is a very dark topic, and hard to think about, but you better, because you never know when and if.
    NRP

    • Marie

      Even if I lost my whole support system (supplies, husband, MAG, etc.) I would still feel confident in my ability to keep myself and my children fed, watered and sheltered. Protection would be the issue. But there really isn’t any protection in a group of men whose primary interest in adding you to their group is their physical satisfaction. As a woman in such a situation, you’re disposable. It would be a temporary solution for me, at best. Would I do it if my kids’ lives depended on it? Absolutely. And I’d make sure I was damn good at it for as long as I needed the group. But I’d never consider the group in the first place unless I felt confident I wasn’t going from the frying pan right into the fire. (I’ve been blessed/cursed with two young daughters. I would not willingly introduce them to a group of 30 men who are hard up in exchange for questionable “protection”.) Hopefully, any group I joined would soon discover that I had greater value than laying on my back, and it would become a mutually beneficial arrangement. But try to add or keep me by force, or threaten my kids’ safety, and I’ll spend the whole time smiling in your face while plotting your death. I’ll endure until I can get away.

      • NRP

        Well said Marie.